Trying to think of workflow for designing historic building

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Hi all,
I’ve been considering trying to model this house for a while.

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I used to use SketchUp, a software fairly set up for this kind of task.

I’m now using Nomad currently as I just like the portability.
The other reason for it, is I just found Sketchup quite limited and janky for texturing (an area which i want to develop skill in).

Previously it would be like this:
Create a shape like a rectangle, use a 2d line tool to draw an outline, eg 2x lines diagonally down from the centre (top of the rectangle), into the bottom left and right corners (to create a triangle out of the rectangle basically).

Then use Push/Pull to push cut away the top corners (pushing backwards), to get rid of the geometry.

Push/Pull in SketchUp
https://youtu.be/9VvA5e-E2a8

Can anyone suggest to me how they might go about modeling something like the house above?

---- things like the fencing, no problem, lathe a shape, create an array.
same for the details just under the gutter area, same for pillars.
stairs, no problem, just rectangles/cubes with chamfered edges potentially.

But another question, I wonder how to go about cutting holes in surfaces, lets say i wanted to model the window. I guess I could use subtract method (remove one geometry from another).

Anyway, just looking for idaes really to get started.
Anyone got any tips?

My previous building models:
www.sketchfab.com/skillipevolver

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If you’re used to using sketchup have a look at Shape 3D… https://www.shapr3d.com

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Ill give it a look, thanks

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would it be feasible to model hard surface models like buildings in Shapr3d, and import its model into Nomad for texturing>?

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It’ll give you a low poly triangulated obj which can bring into nomad but I wouldn’t advise vertex painting due to having to have high mesh density unless it was flat colour. For high res detailed textures best to UV and paint in procreate

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I have made a few videos on Youtube, on the channel just search for : Nomad Sculpt CAD, you may find a few ideas.
I also came from Sketchup - I almost do not need it anymore.

There are really many ways to do these things with Nomad, unfortunately they require a lot of explanation …

BUT you have to forget how to work in Sketchup…

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Hi Steve, thanks.
I did a short test last night, created a basic model in Shaper3D and imported into Nomad. I see what you mean about the mesh. It created a very basic bunch of triangles more than anything, I could tell it looked iffy as the shading looked weird.

However after I re-meshed it up to 300 detail, I was able to paint on it pretty well so I’m hopeful I might be able to do this, I’ll have to experiment more.

Luckily, I seem to have got an educational license for free as I work at a college. (Shaper3D)

Question about the procreate workflow (I’ll probably cave in and buy it at some point) but I’m just not sure I’m keen on painting separately away from the model, then mapping on to the model. I’m not sure I’m so up for this workflow but it may be what I need to learn/get used to.

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looks interesting, thanks Holger I’ll have a look.

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If I understand you correct (about the line regarding flat colour)… are you saying that the best chances I have with a direct import from Shaper, is to keep the model (in Shaper) to flat colour only? (ie no textures). --that was my plan already, just to mention.

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Yeah, just dropping paint colour on each object will be fine, if you wanted to add wood grain or general wear & tear then you’d need hi poly count or UVs

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Hi SkillipEvolver,

Did you ever manage to create this house? I’m particularly interested in if your were able to apply textures.

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Hi Michelle…
Sorry no, sorry to disappoint, tough I was intrigued to see someone asking about what I was up to!

Unfortunately I’ve had a lot to deal with in terms of other things in life and since then.

Id made a bit of progress in early 23 but in the summer, the ipad had problems on and off and it took from about August (!) until early this year to get it fixed!

yes I know! :clock4::hourglass:

I’ve been putting time into building a home office since Jan and building a decent PC for more desktop work.

You might want to try YouTube to see what’s current in terms of applying textures on nomad.

Back when I was messing around, you could import basic textures and there were a lot of impressions ways you could create textures and create bumps and relief etc etc but I have to be honest, I found the need to have to keep increasing/decreasing the poly/detail count just quite a distraction to the main goal of putting art into the textures…

I found it more enjoyable to simply paint onto models within ProCreate. It’s more direct, it feels more like you’re getting a result.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Nomad is very capable if you know how, maybe things have changed by now…

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The other reason I found nomad a touch ‘cramped’, is that I wanted to try applying ‘PBR’ texture sets to my building model.

I collected a couple hundred sets, but I found importing them 1 by 1 and into the slots each time just took a bit too long. If you didn’t like the result… you then had to import another 3x textures, repeat over n over until you find a texture you like… It just wasn’t quite the texturing dream I had hoped for!