# Topology messing up again… **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Report\ **Created:** [November 22, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081 "2022-11-22T18:13:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ohgoditsmomos](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ohgoditsmomos/32/9746_2.png) [@ohgoditsmomos](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ohgoditsmomos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/1 "2022-11-22T18:13:09Z")
![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/2X/e/e80f552ae044c367fbd7f5f4230338e0095b6558.jpeg) Again not sure what caused it but its happening again like its making strange „pores“ and the topology got kinda „gritty“ 😭 remesh function or dyntopo actually causes it to get worse i also resetted the smoothtool to check its not some setting (it works fine in other files though) im not sure at what point it got like this i think i was fusing the ears to the head… [Video](https://youtu.be/V0ZGSz57POs) i hope its visible in the video what its doing? (Sometimes when i undo history its making even more pores…) ps: sorry i made a new topic just tell me if i should add it to the other one instead im pretty sure its the same issue as last time since they react in a similar way 😬 ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/2 "2022-11-22T18:40:30Z")
Maybe mathematical rounding errors (these happen when the object is very small like \<1 mm) Could be worth a try scaling it up by a factor of 10\* or 100\* to see if it stops happening then ---
**Author:** ![ohgoditsmomos](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ohgoditsmomos/32/9746_2.png) [@ohgoditsmomos](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ohgoditsmomos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/3 "2022-11-22T19:02:05Z")
Thanks for the suggestion but sadly that didnt work either i feel like my remesh just acts… weird for certain models maybe an issue with polygon numbers? 🥲 ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/4 "2022-11-22T20:15:01Z")
It’s not polygon number for sure. Send me the model (gltf) and I’ll take a look. ---
**Author:** ![ohgoditsmomos](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ohgoditsmomos/32/9746_2.png) [@ohgoditsmomos](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ohgoditsmomos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/5 "2022-11-22T20:40:38Z")
sorry Its a bit too big to upload here [i hope you can dl it from this](https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ag91moxGI6lDoR10w0N1PjZo9_dP) ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/6 "2022-11-22T20:47:26Z")
Thanks, what should I do to replicate the bug? Otherwise for now simply bake the matrix in the gizmo menu. On 1.68 having skew in the matrix can be problematic (for example when remeshing). ---
**Author:** ![ohgoditsmomos](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ohgoditsmomos/32/9746_2.png) [@ohgoditsmomos](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ohgoditsmomos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/7 "2022-11-22T21:07:34Z")
its a bit hard to recall at what point exactly the messup happened i just remember noticing it after i started working on it again after leaving the program in the background to do something else for a while 🥲 the last thing i remember doing is voxelremeshing the ears onto it working on those a bit then working on the haircurves, then when i came back smoothing causes what you can see… i will try pinpoint it more in future it might happen again and yeah thankfully baking made it workable again 💦 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_S](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/michael_s/32/13953_2.png) [@Michael\_S](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Michael_S)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/8 "2022-12-25T12:56:02Z")
Hi, got visually similar issue, but it’s not related to remeshing. Usually happens after using smooth brush and then get these bumps, but not at the exact location where a brush was used, but around. See in the attached image, face details were destroyed by the bug. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/2X/c/c4e46edc13c6cd6f444e84d1ac5b96ebcc8c1fb6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/9 "2022-12-25T15:42:06Z")
Can you check the matrix (gizmo menu) and check if there is non uniform scale or skew. If so, you might want to bake the transform. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_S](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/michael_s/32/13953_2.png) [@Michael\_S](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Michael_S)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/topology-messing-up-again/9081/10 "2022-12-25T20:09:50Z")
Hi, it was non uniform so I baked it, thanks!