# Symmetry Issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Tips, Tutorials and Help\ **Tags:** nomadsculpt\ **Created:** [July 8, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431 "2024-07-08T01:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/1 "2024-07-08T01:55:43Z")
Hello! New to Nomad and 3D software in general. Been working on this wolf guy and suddenly found that I’m no longer able symmetrically sculpt the head… tried playing around with the settings/following online advice and haven’t found a fix yet. It seems to be an issue exclusive to the “head” object ![IMG_2674](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/3X/f/6/f68f7ffeaf9995e3c7fc8dcdf03695e07c8453da.png) ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/2 "2024-07-08T01:58:18Z")
try setting the method from ‘world’ to ‘local’. ---
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/4 "2024-07-08T02:30:45Z")
Tried that, does the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/5 "2024-07-08T03:02:34Z")
can you upload a nomad file here? if local/world doesn’t work, its usualy related to a pivot or offset you’ve accidentally baked in. ---
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/7 "2024-07-08T03:27:03Z")
[Wolf.nom](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/uploads/short-url/8T4P5iAIZ4ArGoyh5EdXC45rxNj.nom) (8.3 MB) ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/8 "2024-07-08T03:36:51Z")
ok, so if you turn on ‘show line’ at the bottom of the symmetry panel, you can see something has gone wrong, both local and world modes show where nomad thinks the mirror plane should be is misaligned: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/3X/3/1/31ce1057115006c27878693957315eeabce9bdf5.jpeg) ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/3X/c/a/ca4bf7fecf2c7b60c4d1bd32dbe67ea7e6128c8b.jpeg) There’s a few options you can do here: 1. Move everything back to the origin Select the head, open the gizmo tool, click ‘move to origin’. Of course in your case you have separate parts for teeth, eyes, jaw etc, so you can temporarily parent everything under the head, move to origin, then unparent: Once at the origin, it might be a good idea to click ‘bake’ so that nomad knows this is where the head should be when all the transform values are at their defaults: 1. Fix the mirror plane Usually clicking the world center and orient center buttons on the symmetry menu will fix it, but something strange has gone on here, and they don’t work. In this case you can click the seemingly-muted button to alter the symmetry plane manually. It’s semi-hidden for a reason; when the first two buttons dont’ work it implies something is wrong with the object transform (which is what the above method solves), so only use this as a last resort if you absolutely can’t move things back to the origin for whatever reason: ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/9 "2024-07-08T03:37:02Z")
cool sculpt btw! ---
**Author:** ![Holger\_Schoenischka](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/holger_schoenischka/32/3934_2.png) [@Holger\_Schoenischka](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Holger_Schoenischka)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/10 "2024-07-08T04:38:17Z")
You should save this complete explanation under How to : symmetry problems so that we only have to post the link if the same question / problem is asked again. ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/11 "2024-07-08T04:57:29Z")
Heh, good point! It’s on the todo list… ---
**Author:** ![Tiago\_Mesquita\_Silve](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/tiago_mesquita_silve/32/17920_2.png) [@Tiago\_Mesquita\_Silve](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Tiago_Mesquita_Silve)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/12 "2024-07-08T14:20:28Z")
I was having similar issues yesterday and totally forgot how to reset things. Thank you @mestela for the detailed explanation 😃 ---
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/13 "2024-07-08T22:35:42Z")
Thank you for the suggestions. I’ve tried all of them and it’s still not working ;( should I assume it’s a bug at this point? ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/14 "2024-07-08T23:37:21Z")
It’s definitely not a bug, your mesh isn’t symmetrical. I recorded a full process video with audio to explain: ---
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/15 "2024-07-09T01:18:48Z")
Thank you so much for the video explanation! I will try this when I get home, you are a lifesaver ---
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 2:02am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/16 "2024-07-09T02:02:40Z")
I’ve been able to complete most of the steps, but it doesn’t allow me to do the mirror mesh or not both halves simultaneously. ---
**Author:** ![mestela](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/mestela/32/26174_2.png) [@mestela](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/mestela)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/17 "2024-07-09T02:21:25Z")
_shrug_ works for me, you can see that in the video. i’ve attached the .nom file too, but between the video explainer and this file, there’s not much more advice I can offer. [wolf\_symmetry.nom](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/uploads/short-url/4o9Nrfs4HmzViJMZMACikkF1HyG.nom) (8.4 MB) ---
**Author:** ![UltraViolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/c77e96/32.png) [@UltraViolet](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/UltraViolet)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/symmetry-issues/16431/18 "2024-07-09T02:28:49Z")
Thank you regardless! Better than restarting from scratch…