# New "free transform" tool

**URL:** <https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114>\
**Category:** Feature Request\
**Created:** [January 9, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114 "2021-01-09T01:17:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/1 "2021-01-09T01:17:52Z")

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Another strange little idea I had, because I find Nomad’s camera navigation really intuitive to use, I was thinking why not have the exact same kind of interaction for object transforms as well (2 finger move, roll and scale, let go of 1 finger to rotate)

On the tool option side (side toolbar) there could be 3 checkmarks which would enable or disable translate, rotate and scale separately.

Not sure about the next thing, but I think the 3 transform tools could even be removed in favor of this, so the overall UI amount could be reduced.

Btw congrats on the new release, makes a very nice start to the new year!

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**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/2 "2021-01-09T01:42:07Z")

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Yes it’s something I had in mind since a while.

I also find the rotate/translate/scale mostly useless now.  
The rotate one was probably the most useful one but with the new gizmo this advantage is gone.

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In case it went unnoticed I extended the gizmo functionality with free-rotate capability.  
You need to press the gizmo sphere (avoiding the other handles).  
Then it will act similarly as a free-trackball rotation, when you add a second fingers you can then roll-rotate.  
Most of the time I only use this newly introduced free-rotate mode instead.

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/3 "2021-01-09T02:24:29Z")

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The new gizmo is very useful, also with the grey circle roll, didn’t notice the 2 finger roll yet. I agree the MRS tools are duplicates now and they could be removed.

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/4 "2021-01-09T16:02:27Z")

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Ah one thing I forgot to add … It could be useful if the Gizmo and other transform tools were excempt from the “finger always smooths” setting

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**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/5 "2021-01-09T17:08:47Z")

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Makes sense.

It raises the question for trim/project/split as well.

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/6 "2021-01-13T22:45:25Z")

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Hey thanks for implementing it so quickly!

Not sure about trim, project and split yet. I believe they don’t use multitouch so it can’t hurt to leave smooth-by-finger on for occasional smoothing in these modes

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/7 "2021-01-24T10:07:27Z")

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awesome works exactly as I was hoping! A few final tweaks I’d propose: Scale is quite sensitive, I think about half would be exactly right. (The same I was thinking about the other tool, the normal gizmo, where the rotate speed should be half . 1 rotation would be = 1 circumference length on the tangent so it roughlymatches the grey circle rotation)

Another idea I had, would it make sense to have pinching transform in screen Z direction if scale is off as an option? It could be confusing in ortho mode though

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/8 "2021-02-27T11:27:26Z")

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Thanks for the latest speed up of this tool.

There’s one final very minor thing with finger nav when using this. When starting rotating the camera with 1 finger outside of the model, then this finger comes within the model bounds while navigating, and then a second finger comes down inside the model bounds, then the object scale is started. I think in this particular situation (since its still during a cam nav gesture) it would be better to scale the cam view instead of the object.

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**Author:** ![knacki](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/knacki/32/1297_2.png) [@knacki](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/knacki)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/9 "2021-02-27T12:07:06Z")

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This only happens to me when using old scale tool, which I only used once per accident. With new gizmo there are no problems like you described.  
Is there anything why I should explore other navigation tools? Sorry to interfere, but I was just asking myself a few days ago after I had the problem you described. The new gizmo and finger control can be a bit challenging, is that a reason?

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**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/10 "2021-02-27T12:50:31Z")

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> [@ray](#):
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> it would be better to scale the cam view instead of the object.

Agreed, will be fixed on the next release (the one after [1.41](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/nomad-change-log/139/15)).

> [@knacki](#):
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> Is there anything why I should explore other navigation tools?

There is only 2 navigation tools: Gizmo and Transform.  
Previously it was Gizmo and 3 different separate tools (and they were pretty useless in my opinion).

But the new Transform tool, personally I use it all the time, I’m really happy with how it works.  
However you really need to use 2 fingers with it, with a single finger you can translate, rotate and scale.

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/11 "2021-02-27T15:17:54Z")

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In case someone misses the old tools, I think they can be recreated by saving tool presets from the tranform tool with only one of the S, R ort T options active. These works with 1 finger IIRC, that might make sense with small devices where 2 fingers might be an issue

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Ross](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/justin_ross/32/1231_2.png) [@Justin\_Ross](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Justin_Ross)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/12 "2021-02-27T16:27:15Z")

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Wait, are tool presets in now?

/edit: omg how did I miss that? That’s huge!

/edit 2: update not available for me yet on iPad. Weird. 😕

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**Author:** ![PXgeek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/pxgeek/32/3039_2.png) [@PXgeek](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/PXgeek)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/13 "2021-02-27T19:48:12Z")

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Oh man…we get brush presets now?!

What a great update 😁

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/14 "2021-05-07T11:38:09Z")

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I have a (final? 😊) small improvement suggestion, I find the scale speed for this tool too fast, I think a few versions ago it was slower then it got faster again not sure. About 1 cm finger movement already about doubles/halves the size ( I’m getting this effect on Android, don’t know about Apples)

I think about 1/2 or 1/3 of the current sensitivity would be right. Maybe what could work best if it were possible to control the sensitivity of the scale operation with a slider.

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**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/15 "2021-05-07T12:01:03Z")

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Yes it’s 4 times faster than what it should be (iPad).  
Same issue as camera movement being too fast on Android as well.

I fixed it in [https://stephaneginier.com/archive/nomad\_demo](https://stephaneginier.com/archive/nomad_demo)

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**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/new-free-transform-tool/1114/16 "2021-05-07T14:44:09Z")

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Thanks, that was fixed faster than I could click the reply button in my suggestion 😄

Seems the right speed now. Pretty amazing also that I could test it in my phone browser.
