# Issue with pen (Android) **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Report\ **Created:** [September 16, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243 "2020-09-16T21:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/1 "2020-09-16T21:31:07Z")
Hey there, bumping into this issue, sometimes where when I’m navigating with two fingers with the left hand, and then approach with the stylus in the right hand with the left hand still down, the stylus stays in “navigation” mode even when I remove my left hand later. Same with three fingers, when I approach the pen, I rotate the env with the pen and it stays in that mode until I actually rotate with three fingers again and then let go. I can try to record a video if this can’t be reproduced … looked into it a bit more and it seems to happen mostly when using a high polygon count with wireframe mode for some reason ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/2 "2020-09-18T11:23:08Z")
From what I’m reading it’s more or less the expected behavior. You can’t sculpt and rotate the camera at the same time. I only have an iPad Air (Apple pencil) and and a mobile Android with no pen though. So maybe I’m missing something. ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/3 "2020-09-18T13:27:14Z")
The pen gets stuck in camera navigation mode then, and I can’t press any buttons in the interface with it either. It’s like internally, Nomad believes one of the fingers is still down and the pen would be the second finger. But it only happens when the viewport load is rather high. It’s pretty difficult to get out of that weird mode also. [http://traypen.com/bb/20200918\_153411.mp4](http://traypen.com/bb/20200918_153411.mp4) `traypen.com/bb/20200918_153411.mp4` (I’ve enable touch visualization in the android developer options that’s what these extra lines are). There’s no issue when I lift my left hand completely before I sculpt, but it’s still happening by accident. Also it sometimes happens when I touch with the palm of my right hand hand before the pen is down. ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/4 "2020-09-18T15:13:08Z")
Ah ok it’s a bug. I can’t reproduce with iPad Air. Normally when you move the pencil it should rotate the environment. I think that’s because Android can’t handle fingers and pencil at the same time, which is really annoying… ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/5 "2020-09-18T15:27:41Z")
Ah so you can press the smooth modifier on the left while sculpting (ie smoothing) on iPad? That’s a nice advantage of iPads then. ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/6 "2020-09-18T15:50:16Z")
Yes, I don’t know if it’s a Samsung thing or Android thing though. ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/7 "2020-09-18T16:51:09Z")
It might even have been done by Samsung on hardware level, then there’s no hope at all of customzing it for an app. For me it’s not a big inconveneince though since finger smooth is also very useful 👍 ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/8 "2020-09-18T17:56:22Z")
Btw let me know if you need an Android tester… just as a side note just found out that the Samsung s-pen is completely replacable by an old wacom digitizer-II pen from 1994 … even pressure sensitivity is working. 🤣 A more modern wacom pen isn’t funcioning as an s-pen though. ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/9 "2020-09-18T18:17:01Z")
> [@ray](#): > > Btw let me know if you need an Android tester… I don’t do beta/alpha testing but since I don’t have any tablet Android with pencil I will mostly rely on feedbacks to fix issues related to pencil. Also I’ll try to add the Android button pencil support on next release, but you can be 100% it won’t work perfectly 🙂. To be honest Android is not the top priority for now but eventually these bugs will be fixed. Almost all of Nomad shares the exact same code between iOS/Android/Desktop, but the platform-specific things are a bit annoying. ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/10 "2020-09-18T19:01:59Z")
> [@stephomi](#): > > Almost all of Nomad shares the exact same code between iOS/Android/Desktop, but the platform-specific things are a bit annoying. That’s really amazing that you’re able to pull this off, I wouldn’t even know where to start looking… Desktop btw means Windows? ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/11 "2020-09-18T19:02:52Z")
Yes but it’s for development only, maybe in the future I’ll release a desktop version but nothing planned for now. ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/12 "2020-09-18T19:03:47Z")
That’s interesting. Sounds good 👍 ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/13 "2020-10-07T14:45:55Z")
Sorry to bump this, but I think this is the biggest issue on android right now when working with high res models. It happens almost always now if I’m not very careful with my hand movements, like every 2 minutes and I get stuck in this mode where it’s tricky to get out of. I was thinking, it looks like some touch events might disappear for some reason but maybe it could be fixed experimentally by removing all internal finger down states once the pen is detected? ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/15 "2020-10-07T15:40:33Z")
Can you reproduce the issue if you sculpt with your finger? ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/16 "2020-10-07T15:47:25Z")
No just the pen, fingers cause no issue at all. ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/17 "2020-10-07T16:04:21Z")
Ok I think I know the issue, I’ll make quick release for android today. ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/18 "2020-10-07T18:54:13Z")
Thanks! btw just downloaded a new release which still has the issues not sure if it’s that one already. ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/19 "2020-10-07T18:58:00Z")
What is the version? It should be 1.32.1 ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/20 "2020-10-07T19:00:49Z")
Oh I had 1.32, after updating it still says 1.32 I’ll try and reboot the tablet ---
**Author:** ![stephomi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/stephomi/32/19583_2.png) [@stephomi](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/stephomi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243/21 "2020-10-07T19:02:24Z")
No don’t bother, the update is not there yet. Google needs to verify it first (it’s just that sometimes they send me the confirmation note a few hours after the release landed on the store for real). [Next page](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/issue-with-pen-android/243.md?page=2)