# Can’t sculpt without vertex paint switching back on **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Report\ **Created:** [January 2, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523 "2023-01-02T10:50:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Andych56](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/andych56/32/13466_2.png) [@Andych56](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Andych56)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523/1 "2023-01-02T10:50:41Z")
Has anyone else experienced the vertex paint turning its self back on when trying to sculpt? If I uncheck the SHOW PAINTING option in the shading panel and try to work in grey scale as soon as I touch the model the vertex paint switches back on. I’m using a 2020 iPad with the 1.70 version of Nomad ---
**Author:** ![Holger\_Schoenischka](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/holger_schoenischka/32/3934_2.png) [@Holger\_Schoenischka](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Holger_Schoenischka)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523/2 "2023-01-02T11:33:26Z")
If you have Painting active in your tool, show painting is automatically reactivated. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/2X/3/34b750ae54bc528705b6390f2faf31ad5f6d7838.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Andych56](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/andych56/32/13466_2.png) [@Andych56](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Andych56)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523/3 "2023-01-02T22:59:47Z")
Great thanks for the tip. ---
**Author:** ![Fxpear](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/fxpear/32/14180_2.png) [@Fxpear](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Fxpear)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 9:55am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523/4 "2023-01-06T09:55:35Z")
I was having this problem of turning off paint and use Matcap to check sculpture When I use Smooth, it turn the paint back on. Thanks to this post, I found where to fix this. I say fix because feels like a problem indeed. Not so intuitive right now. Why not make an easy access like symmetry and smooth, a button to turn on/off paint/sculpt? ---
**Author:** ![ray](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/ray/32/23707_2.png) [@ray](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/ray)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523/5 "2023-01-06T17:34:11Z")
Agreed. UI stuff should be set by the user only. I think another solution would be… When a brush is active that has painting on and “show painting” is off, there’s a little warning like the one that appears with trim/orthographic: “painting will not be applied because show painting is disabled the shading options” ---
**Author:** ![Andych56](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/andych56/32/13466_2.png) [@Andych56](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Andych56)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-sculpt-without-vertex-paint-switching-back-on/9523/6 "2023-01-08T23:43:18Z")
I think it’s a little buggy and that can add to the confusion. Last night I had it set off and when I used the smooth tool on my model the vertex paint switched back on. I had to repeat the steps to switch it off again. It stayed off after that.