# Can’t have a refractive material inside a refractive material

**URL:** https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-have-a-refractive-material-inside-a-refractive-material/3992
**Category:** Bug Report
**Created:** [September 25, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-have-a-refractive-material-inside-a-refractive-material/3992 "2021-09-25T02:46:03Z")
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### Author: ![Hon](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/hon/32/868_2.png) [@Hon](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Hon)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-have-a-refractive-material-inside-a-refractive-material/3992/1 "2021-09-25T02:46:03Z")

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I think something is off with a refractive material inside a refractive material. Is this a limitation of the type of rendering used? Top is refractive inside refractive bottom the inside changed to opaque

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/uploads/nomadsculpt/original/2X/c/c603f025c7134c2fc1a463638d917029792fa1b6.jpeg)

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### Author: ![John\_Mills](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/john_mills/32/5817_2.png) [@John\_Mills](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/John_Mills)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-have-a-refractive-material-inside-a-refractive-material/3992/2 "2021-09-25T06:00:21Z")

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Mesh’s end up transparent with refraction on because theyre refracting light off its surface completely in Nomads PBR, so a blank refractive object inside a blank refractive object will cancel each other out without any additional effects to support it. It is possible to do this I’ve experimented with ice a lot, you need to add extra enhancements for it to work.

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### Author: ![Hon](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/hon/32/868_2.png) [@Hon](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/Hon)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-have-a-refractive-material-inside-a-refractive-material/3992/3 "2021-09-25T08:56:06Z")

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Ah ok, I see

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### Author: ![manthx](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex005/user_avatar/forum.nomadsculpt.com/manthx/32/6434_2.png) [@manthx](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/u/manthx)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.nomadsculpt.com/t/can-t-have-a-refractive-material-inside-a-refractive-material/3992/4 "2021-11-11T01:30:26Z")

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It happens to me that if I have a reflective material like in an Eye, If I use another in front like with Glasses, the Eye reflective material doesn’t show specular lights, the reflections.